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Toyota Crown Signia vs. Toyota Venza

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#1 ·
The Toyota Crown Signia and the Toyota Venza are both unique models in Toyota’s lineup, each with their own distinct features and characteristics. Here’s a comparison of the two:

Platform and Size Both the Venza and Crown Signia are built on the same TNGA-K platform. However, the Crown Signia is larger and has a taller roofline.

Powertrain Both vehicles are available only with a hybrid powertrain. The Crown Signia combines a 2.5-litre engine with an electric motor.

Design The Venza has a smooth and shapely design with thin, rectangular headlights, a tapered roofline, and full-width taillights. On the other hand, the Crown Signia has a high-riding sedan design that draws a lot from crossovers. It also features a full-width taillight.

Interior Both the Crown and Venza offer more premium interiors than traditional Toyotas, closing the gap between the mainstream brand and its luxury Lexus sibling.

Market Position The Crown Signia is set to replace the Venza in Toyota’s lineup. It is expected to be less efficient but will boast more power and towing capacity than the Venza5.

Please note that this is not a traditional comparison. The focus is more on how they’re different, both from each other and other options in their price range.
 
#4 ·
Toyota uses three different E-CVT units, the P610, the P710, and the P810. Signia has the highest rated horsepower unit in it, the P810. I wonder if that is what controls or allows the higher (or in the case of the Venza, any) towing capacity? The CarCareNut refers to the P810 being the E-CVT unit in the Signia in his review posted on this site. I haven't found any reviews that specify which model of E-CVT the Venza has in it.

For reference, we would have bought the Venza if it had better interior color choices and at least 2,500 pounds towing capability.
 
#5 ·
The Crown is a model unique unto itself....it is not an upgraded version of the Venza. The Crown sedan and the Signia are identical from the "B" pillar forward bearing no resemblance in luxury or dash electronics to the Venza. Ditto the drivetrain which contains more powerful electric motors. There are distinct models of the Venza and Signia in production in Japan...only the Venza was discontinued from import into the U.S. and Signa imported to fill the void with a top of the line crossover/SUV.

The Crown sedan is the replacement for the former top of the line Avalon. The Signia is the crossover version of the Crown sedan. The Venza was in direct competition with the Lexus NX in quality and luxury at a cheaper price. The size, physically longer and roomier and features of the Signia are in direct competition with the two row Lexus RX, not the NX.

Position of seat to doorpost is irrelevant since the Signia has a driver's seat auto retract feature to assist entry. Had a Venza and now have a Signia and from first hand experience can confirm it's closer to a Lexus RX in quality of the interior. Uses real leather not Softex Venza seating surfaces, leather even the back of the front seats. Signia is all LED including door handles and floor lighting. Ride of the Signia is smoother and quieter even with the 21" wheels.

Outer looks are superior.....a new '24 Venza looks just like an old '21 Venza. The '25 Signia with its hammerhead shark front will look new throughout years to come.

Out with the old
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In with the new

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#6 ·
Traded my Venza LE on a Signia XLE.
Overall, clearly the Signia is the nicer vehicle that said, here's the things that the Venza LE has or does better than the Signia.........

Power adjustable steering wheel was awesome
The center console arm rest has much thicker deeper padding
Personally I prefer the Venza LE cloth seating surface. Cloth doesn't need heating or ventilation
Spare tire!!
I could display both tank and trip MPG at the same time
High beams are better
I really did love the multiple shades of gray interior that was available
The kick to open tailgate was way less finicky
Easier transmission sport mode operation with shift lever
 
#8 ·
Each to his own. Dumped the Venza XLE in favor of the Signia Limited.

My Venza XLE had the upgraded Limited Softex h/v seating. Sig leather seats themselves are thicker and more comfortable with additional piping to reduce stress and automatic operation of automatic setting for temperature control on the seats and steering wheel depending upon outside temp is much appreciated. Might tolerate cloth seats in a rental Corolla but not as an owner. Remote levers to drop seats without opening doors is useful in a crowded parking lot and the fold down gap extensions on the back of the seats provide more useful area for storage. In the Limited the birds eye view and high def cameras with transparent overlay are extremely helpful to prevent road rash on the alloys when parking against a curb.

Set the location of the motorized steering wheel in the Venza once and the manual Sig once when purchased......and that is where it was (will be) when traded.

Location of the headlamps to mid nose location in the has proved to be beneficial in heavy morning fogs in the mountains, in low but especially if using highs. Upper locations on previous vehicles tend to bounce highs back and whiteout the windshield. And the Sig is equipped with headlamp washers!....extremely helpful for clearing dirt and road salt and clearing condensate in a fog.

Never use the center console as an armrest....much to low to hold wheel properly. Hands at 10 - 2 on the wheel and door ledge is the armrest. The two way action of the Sig armrest helps so the person riding shotgun doesn't annoy me when opening it from her side.

The best part is the high class luxury interior with dual 12.3 screens integrated into the streamlined dash. Main cluster can be customized to depict numerous information at your fingertips.
No more look of an aftermarket tablet glued to the dash.

The automatic noise control using 4 mics in the passenger cabin assures a nice quieter ride. The Sig has an improved suspension with modified rear transaxle eliminates that corrosion prone Rav/Venza/HiHy open electrical connector.

Hybrid system uses powerful electrics found in the HiHy and you can instantly feel the extra 20+ hp on fast takeoff.

Tailgate operation is improved over the former Rav/Venza/HiiHy systems. Instead of a kick all one has to do is raise and sweep the foot from end to center and the gate opens first time, every time.

New fly by wire shifter takes a few tries to get accommodated. But once familiarized it provides advantages over button interlock shift. Purposely requires additional motion for engaging S manual control but does provide advantage against accidentally shifting from D to S control. More than offset by the Sig Limited steering wheel paddle shifters elimination the need for using the stick shifter in S position.

Multi positioning of the automatic driver seat retractor for entering or exiting vehcile is convenient and the worm gear seat mechanism is quiet and efficient unlike cheaper geartrain driven seats easpecially for heavier drivers. As far as smoothness of ride the Sig limited 21" wheel are just as smooth as the Venza's 19's......exception being in freezing weather where the 21's take longer to heat up and round out the flat spots from sitting......but the 21's make up in it with improved performance and faster cornering over the smaller wheels.

Had a ' 20 Rav, had a '21 Venza, have a '25 Sig.....The Venza is no more than a sleeker, more luxurious version of the Rav with whom it shares an identical drivetrain. The Crown sedan is the replacement for the top line Avalon sedan discontinued in '24. The Crown Sig. is a crossover version of the Crown sedan with identical suspension and drivetrain.......one cannot tell the difference in the suspension or from the "B" pillar forward. My son has a Crown sedan and when riding in it have to look at the hood color to tell the difference in the vehicles.

Luv my Sig!
 
#9 ·
Nice writeup and pretty matches our experience so far. We traded in the 2019 Avalon Limited V6. One minor adjustment to your excellent summary, I think the the last year for the Avalon Gen 5 was 2022, not 2024.
 
#12 ·
.02

Arms and shoulders torn off? Plenty of knuckleheads at work popped airbags in the company vehicles and yet were still able to sign their paychecks.

"While the "10 and 2" position was once the standard, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) now recommends the "9 and 3" position for steering wheel hand placement to reduce the risk of injury from airbag deployment.

I can live with a 9 - 3 while still using the door sill as an armrest. The idea is for max. control in an emergency like a fast turn emergency maneuver, front wheel blowout, tooth breaking pothole or engine/power steering failure where strength/leverage wise 8 - 4 ain't gonna cut it.

The 8 - 4 position works just fine on my lawn tractor, but in a car the 8-4 position is better suited for texting while driving rather than control.
 
#13 ·
I was in a front end collision a few years back and routinely drive with hands at the the 10 and 2 o'clock positions, all airbags deployed (steering wheel, and both side curtain airbags).

I still have both hands, arms and no dislocated shoulders. Didn't even break any bones in my forearms either (ulna and radius). I don't remember any bruising either.

The only bruising I had was to my left shoulder and neck from the seat belt going down across my chest to the lap belt and latch. Oh, and also a majorly bruised ego. I was merging into traffic from a freeway onramp and I looked over my shoulder to check for an opening, when I turned my eyes back to front, the cars in front of me had stopped because a person in front had gone to the end of the onramp and stopped.

Modern airbags are much better than those of many years ago.

I did suffer a ringing left ear (tinnitus) though from the side curtain airbag going off near my left ear. Lasted a few weeks, and it still rings sometimes after exposure to loud noises.
 

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#18 ·
I had a 2021 Venza Limited and agree with Get_Yotted completely. My Signia wagon with flat black interior is elegant and all controls and switch gear come readily to hand. The flat black headliner is yet another elegant touch. When driving I feel as if I'm inside of a comfortable pair of tassel loafers. And driving the Signia I feel more planted on the road.
 
#27 ·
My son and I tested a leftover '22 Avalon when he bought his '23 Crown. We really liked the Avalon which could have cost less against the new model Crown. Both compared in ride and luxury, but the big difference is in the riding position.

Avalon ground height and seating position is lower than the Crown. This was noticeable going from a Venza to the Avalon but not so apparent in the Crown. I'm over 70 and Avalon was not so easy for entry....worse getting out because with seating your feet are so close to the ground. Chose Crown because the seat height felt more like an SUV rather than sitting in a bathtub.

Plus with a Crown you get the updated more aggressive look of current Toyota models instead of a older discontinued models and commands a more favorable price at trade in.
 
#29 ·
We started with the 2009 Venza and were very happy. However, the base 4cylinder cloth seat version was not a high end luxury vehicle. When we were ready to replace it in 2019 there was no Venza and Highlanders are too big and too low mpg. We ended up with a 2019 Outback Limited which was higher quality than any Toyota I’ve ever owned with the possible exception of my 1982 Supra. Now that Subaru has redesigned the Outback to a box that resembles ford explorer or some Honda’s we switched back to the Crown Signia Limited. This vehicle matches or exceeds the Subaru initial quality and I hope it holds up as well.
 
#30 ·
I've a '23 HiHy Plat.and '25 CS Lim.(and (son's) '23 Crown sedan). The Highlander is an SUV and the CS a station wagon version of the Crown sedan being identical to the CS sedan (other than sheet metal) from the "B" pillar forward.

.02 If choice of CS over a same drivetrain Highlander was based solely on size and mpg.......it was a mistake on both counts. The size of a Highlander is merely 0.8" longer than the CS and 2" wider with mirrors folded, actually a wash (0") with longer CS mirrors extended. But, the Highlander is 4.1" higher which makes a really big difference on entry (and height of driver seating position) even with CS seated auto retracted. The combined mpg on the same drivetrain HiHy AWD is 35 vs. 38 for the CS.

The overall ride of the HiHy with 20" wheels is superior to the CS' 21".....ditto for cabin noise and ease of entry for those of us who are tall with back issues plus bonus real OEM spare tire carried externally under the vehicle......all of which compensates for the loss of 3 mpg. especially in consideration of the larger interior and 3 row passenger carrying capacity.

Chose the Crowns over additional (scarce) HiHys merely for different (better) appearance and upscale label........ poor choice for trade in value but bought for long term use.