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Crazy days......sure glad I have my car..... I love it too much. In fact, I love it more than my hubby... He is in second place now.....:):love:
Crazy days indeed.

I too am glad I got my CS, as it’s exceeding my expectations thus far. Granted, I’m still in the first week of ownership, but the drive home from the dealership and my drive to/from work this week has yielded a great ownership experience.
 
Seven months into ownership of my CS and my only complaints remain one's that I have posted earlier: (1) very high cost of repair parts which will likely get more costly, e.g., I had to have a signal light replaced due to an accident; (2) inability to clearly see the sides of the front fenders from the driver's seat and thus the need to be very careful going through carry-outs and close spaces; (3) lack of a spare tire which I remedied trough buying a full sized spare and jerry-rigging the rear compartment as per one of the suggestions on this blog; (4) the severe A-pillar tumblehome that allows water to drip into the car when the doors are opened.
 
Seven months into ownership of my CS and my only complaints remain one's that I have posted earlier: (1) very high cost of repair parts which will likely get more costly, e.g., I had to have a signal light replaced due to an accident; (2) inability to clearly see the sides of the front fenders from the driver's seat and thus the need to be very careful going through carry-outs and close spaces; (3) lack of a spare tire which I remedied trough buying a full sized spare and jerry-rigging the rear compartment as per one of the suggestions on this blog; (4) the severe A-pillar tumblehome that allows water to drip into the car when the doors are opened.
Buying a spare tire and fitting it into your storage space under the rear floor won't mean much if you don't:
1) Have a spare that accepts the conical lug bolts
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2) Have a breaker bar & the physical strength to get those lug bolts off
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3) Have a metal pin to "hang" the tire from to allow you to remove all 5 lug bolts safely
 
The lugs on our CS are torqued down to 103 and, without a breaker bar, are impossible for anyone with reasonable strength to get loose. I told my Toyota dealer that I wanted all of my wheels torqued to the Toyota standard (for their other vehicles except trucks) to be torqued to 81. They did so but made me sign a waiver that they would not be responsible if the "wheels fell off" and caused an accident. They allowed me to back into the service bay and use their digital torque wrench. I did so. I then went out and bought a $145 digital torque wrench to keep in the car for future use.
 
Yes, the metal pin is necessary and I ordered mine off the Internet and carry it in the car. Having owned five German cars in the past, all of those vehicles came with wheel lug bolts and not lug nuts and all came with pins. My tire dealer was surprised that Toyota went with lug bolts when one typically associates such with German cars.
 
... Have a spare that accepts the conical lug bolts...
The stock lug bolts have a rounded/radiused surface, not conical or acorn style.

The spares sourced from Modern Spare and EZSpare require conical or acorn style lug bolts.

Perhaps that's where your mistatement came from.
 
My spare was sourced from Toyota and is the spare that comes standard in the Crown Sedan. I considered the Modern Spare and the EZ Spare but steered away given that I knew they would accommodate our rounded/radiused surface lug bolts.
 
The 25% Trump tariffs on cars imported into the U.S. will not only increase the prices of those cars but may cause models like the Crown Signia to disappear from the American market. Since the Signia is made in Japan, a 25% tariff could not be absorbed by Toyota or the dealers so I would expect Toyota to stop exporting them and sell them in other markets. So if you were thinking of buying one, might be best to grab one now because the Signia could become one of the rarest Toyotas ever sold in the U.S. market.
Wake UP! Anytime Toyota wants to ASSEMBLE Cars in the U.S. (with American Workers), it can choose to do so. My wife drives a 2024 Crown Platinum Max and I drive a 2025 Crown Signia Limited. With only 15,000 Crowns sold in the U.S. each year (Aug. 2024), that's not much to worry about. Toyota can also 'spread' the cost of tariffs on vehicles assembled in Japan across many of its' hot sellers. There are lots of ways they can do what is needed IF THEY WANT TO DO IT. If they don't want to sell 15k cars here for the Crown model, they will sell them elsewhere. Stop acting like one model is so critical to your life. Go take a look at other companies with Assembly plants in the U.S. and then come back and tell me how these vehicles aren't replaceable with others. It's like saving 4 cents at Walmart is so much more important to you than prioritizing jobs for Americans. Corporate Japan (and Toyota) will do what is best for them and you will either pay the freight or not!
 
Wake UP! Anytime Toyota wants to ASSEMBLE Cars in the U.S. (with American Workers), it can choose to do so. My wife drives a 2024 Crown Platinum Max and I drive a 2025 Crown Signia Limited. With only 15,000 Crowns sold in the U.S. each year (Aug. 2024), that's not much to worry about. Toyota can also 'spread' the cost of tariffs on vehicles assembled in Japan across many of its' hot sellers. There are lots of ways they can do what is needed IF THEY WANT TO DO IT. If they don't want to sell 15k cars here for the Crown model, they will sell them elsewhere. Stop acting like one model is so critical to your life. Go take a look at other companies with Assembly plants in the U.S. and then come back and tell me how these vehicles aren't replaceable with others. It's like saving 4 cents at Walmart is so much more important to you than prioritizing jobs for Americans. Corporate Japan (and Toyota) will do what is best for them and you will either pay the freight or not!
You're dreaming if you think any company could simply move an entire production line to the US if they "choose to do so". It costs a lot of money to move & setup a new factory. Whether you like it or not, companies have a responsibility to their shareholders to not undertake something financially stupid like investing 10's or 100's of millions of dollars to move production to a US factory when the president can change his mind tomorrow and drop the tariffs.
 
Trump: "Japan and Korea will pay the tariffs. Already big money is coming in." (two days ago). Anyone who has taken basic Economics 101 knows that tariffs are paid by the American importing companies (who borrow money from their banks) and then pass some or most of the costs onto the products they sell. The consumer, in the end, bears the brunt of tariffs.
 
Wake UP! Anytime Toyota wants to ASSEMBLE Cars in the U.S. (with American Workers), it can choose to do so. My wife drives a 2024 Crown Platinum Max and I drive a 2025 Crown Signia Limited. With only 15,000 Crowns sold in the U.S. each year (Aug. 2024), that's not much to worry about. Toyota can also 'spread' the cost of tariffs on vehicles assembled in Japan across many of its' hot sellers. There are lots of ways they can do what is needed IF THEY WANT TO DO IT. If they don't want to sell 15k cars here for the Crown model, they will sell them elsewhere. Stop acting like one model is so critical to your life. Go take a look at other companies with Assembly plants in the U.S. and then come back and tell me how these vehicles aren't replaceable with others. It's like saving 4 cents at Walmart is so much more important to you than prioritizing jobs for Americans. Corporate Japan (and Toyota) will do what is best for them and you will either pay the freight or not!
I used to think like you Scooby, but with full automation right around the corner, and the once big 3 corporations being transnational, the days of corporate loyalty are over.
The best we can hope for now is being informed as to whether the vehicle is made in a democracy, or an autocracy. Japan is a thriving democracy and great Ally. Besides, Toyota makes more vehicles here, thus more American jobs, than the vast majority of auto companies. Check out "domestic", and European auto manufacturing in Mexico, or GM production in China. I say this as someone who has mainly bought GM for decades... Until now. GM created hybrid technology with the Volt and they stopped perfecting the technology while putting all of their eggs into EV basket. Toyota had the foresight to be the first to pick up the hybrid technology and has perfected it through the years. Hybrids will dominate for decades. My wife and I love our new CS XLE. We're so glad we bought it. We don't care if it's made in Japan.
 
FYI, Toyota created the first mass produced Hybrid vehicle, the Prius back in 1997. The Volt is and was a pure electric vehicle, not a hybrid. The Volt wasn't sold until 2010.

GM created hybrid technology with the Volt and they stopped perfecting the technology while putting all of their eggs into EV basket. Toyota had the foresight to be the first to pick up the hybrid technology and has perfected it through the years. Hybrids will dominate for decades. My wife and I love our new CS XLE. We're so glad we bought it. We don't care if it's made in Japan.
 
I used to think like you Scooby, but with full automation right around the corner, and the once big 3 corporations being transnational, the days of corporate loyalty are over.
The best we can hope for now is being informed as to whether the vehicle is made in a democracy, or an autocracy. Japan is a thriving democracy and great Ally. Besides, Toyota makes more vehicles here, thus more American jobs, than the vast majority of auto companies. Check out "domestic", and European auto manufacturing in Mexico, or GM production in China. I say this as someone who has mainly bought GM for decades... Until now. GM created hybrid technology with the Volt and they stopped perfecting the technology while putting all of their eggs into EV basket. Toyota had the foresight to be the first to pick up the hybrid technology and has perfected it through the years. Hybrids will dominate for decades. My wife and I love our new CS XLE. We're so glad we bought it. We don't care if it's made in Japan.
.02 The Volt was a battery car, but GM's contribution did introduce the first full sized hybrid Silverado/Sierra truck in 2004........even had real hybrid badges on the front fenders. Used a spinning flywheel for mechanical energy storage, a half a$$ed attempt at hybrid technology! When I stopped laughing, the dealer actually tried to sell me that kludged up piece of crap instead of my gas only version purchase. GM likely created this hastily designed and marketed Frankenstein to get Federal clean energy tax breaks instead of actually saving gas.....a forerunner to pioneering their infamous start-stop system.

 
.02 The Volt was a battery car, but GM's contribution did introduce the first full sized hybrid Silverado/Sierra truck in 2004........even had real hybrid badges on the front fenders. Used a spinning flywheel for mechanical energy storage, a half a$$ed attempt at hybrid technology! When I stopped laughing, the dealer actually tried to sell me that kludged up piece of crap instead of my gas only version purchase. GM likely created this hastily designed and marketed Frankenstein to get Federal clean energy tax breaks instead of actually saving gas.....a forerunner to pioneering their infamous start-stop system.

New one on me. Thanks for the article info. I'm glad I missed that turkey. My fling with a start stop was with a rental Audi. I swore I'd never get a start stop vehicle after that. Another GM brainiac idea is sitting in my driveway. The Tahoe 5.3 is a great engine but with 4 valves shutting off and on, a new valve job is in the near future.
 
FYI, Toyota created the first mass produced Hybrid vehicle, the Prius back in 1997. The Volt is and was a pure electric vehicle, not a hybrid. The Volt wasn't sold until 2010.
Okay, it was a "series hybrid" , but it still got great milage. What all new birth hybrids had in common was that they were too small, too light, and had uncomfortable rides... Not any more.
Had to look up the first hybrid out of curiosity, and I was definitely surprised... "The first hybrid car was built by Ferdinand Porsche in 1899. It was called the Lohner-Porsche Mixte and featured a gasoline engine powering an electric motor that drove the front wheels. While not the first electric car, it was the first to combine an internal combustion engine with an electric motor to drive the wheels, making it a true hybrid. "
 
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