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Have you actually mounted Toyota 19" wheels on a Signia Limited???

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We have verbal confirmation the XLE 19" will fit on a Signia Limited.

Has anyone actually done it? Please report your experience mounting 19" wheels on a Signia Limited.
Thanks
 
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How much is this going to set you back to purchase new tires and wheels ?? Honestly, I don't know how much better the ride will be, as (I feel) the ride and handling of the 21" Turanza tires is very good. (Dealer had them at 36psi...I lowered to 33psi as suggested on door tag) Plus (again IMHO) the 21" wheels are a much nicer design. Ride out your 21" wheels and change them out later after they're road rashed and tire tread is shot...


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Changing from 21" to 19" wheels/tires. I have the same thought about downsizing the rims, partly for better ride and mostly for more tire options with lower prices. We went from 19s to 17s on our Mazda 6 sedan (bought used OEM wheels), lost a tiny bit of steering crispness, but gained a noticeably better ride and much less expensive tires, plus the lower profile tires don't "protect" the rim at all, leading to more curb rash and even cut sidewalls. But we'll see how long the OEM tires last and what wheel options are available in a few years.
 
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AztecBronze66 Thanks, I appreciate the points you make.

Assuming i could negotiate "cost" of 19" rims as part of a new Signia purchase, rims at $1720 plus tax. Tires at $1200? Call it three grand. Silly? Yes! Stupid? Yes? But either I enjoy spending the $$$$ or granddaughters blow it on something equally silly/stupid like an electric bike for their boyfriend's birthday.

I'm obsessed with mpg, just of sport of it. I "invented" a fuel conservation program for an airline back in the seventies that saved them $75 million per year. Their most-ever profit was $25 million. I run my Crown 19" at 47psi and frequently break 60mpg. Almost always high fifties. I feel every bump in the road. Fortunately I don't wear false teeth or I'd have to go back to 33 psi.

Re riding out until tread gone then replace; At 2,000 miles per year, at age 89, methinks the tires will outlive me. As a predicate to compare....I've outlived my dick (singer Willie Nelson had same issue).
 
#5 ·
I've not been able to locate a White/Red with Saddle Signia Limited in my area, so still driving my 2023 Crown Limited sedan with 3,600 miles. Options if I purchase a Signia Limited: 1. Put my 19" on the new car and dealer puts the Signa 21" on my 2023 Crown. 2. Purchase 19" rims/tires (at dealer cost $3,000?) and store the 21".
 
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#6 ·
Give us a rough idea of your Area? I've been tracking about 25 Toyota dealers inventory on Signia's for several months now in the Wisconsin/Minnesota area, and have some pretty good ideas of where you'll find the largest inventory, but if your not in the midwest, it won't help you much.

It's taken me over 6 months to find my Red/Tan Limited with Towing and Advanced Tech package, but it's finally due any day.

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Newport Beach, CA, 92625. Within 50 miles, 9 listed Limited Red/White with Saddle, 7 of these inbound. Some junked up to nearly $55,000 with unwanted/unneeded options. CarMax offered $35,000 cash. Most dealers offering me $30,000 for 2023 Crown Limited with 3,600 miles. That means $20,000 cash (if Signia price discounted) and another $4,700 tax/license/fees. The best deal is to keep my 2023 Crown Limited which has 19". All I'm missing is saddle interior and a wagon ass-end instead of a sedan ass-end.
 
#9 ·
Wow! All I need to do now is move to Milwaukee. December just around the corner, better start shopping snow tires (grew up in Kansas...know about snow)....we don't do snow here along the coast, at least not the last 50 years. Thanks, though, for the hot tip about the two Red/Saddles. When it rains is pours.
 
#10 ·
Well that's bit of a drive to Central Wisconsin! Any cheap direct one way flights to Milwaukee WI or Minneapolis MN?

Sell the Sedan to CarMax, and then come get a Signia! We're seeing ~6-7% off MSRP here on Signia Limited, with about $500-600 in junk fees and forced options, but that's way more than offset by the 6-7% off MSRP.

If you really can't stand the 21" wheels/tires after a year or so, then you can always make a change.
 
#11 ·
Had dedicated snow tires/wheels for the last 40 years here in Wisconsin, but we're retired now, and don't go anywhere that we don't HAVE to go anymore. It's almost all optional now. New tires will be fine for the first couple of years.
 
#14 ·
I got spoiled back in seventies picking up a new factory delivery Benz each year. Options included; leather or velour seats, sunroof, air conditioning, cruise control, Becker radio, fog lights, heated seats, rear seat headrests and variety of wheels. In 1979 I had the only S class in town with rear seat headrests.

One thing Toyota dealers could do today is offer a choice of 19" or 21" Signia wheels....just stock a couple of extra sets.

I've read Toyota sells 14 different models. The sell about 2.3 million vehicles per year USA, over 11 million global. I'm guessing they would respond; we can't stock multiple wheel sets for all those models.

The dealers also don't need to stock items like Activity Mounts. Instead they just bolt them on the odd car at Port and buyer get stucks with a $450(?) option....needed or not. The good news is.....for Toyota dealers....they are not stuck with unsold Cross Bars and Tow Bars. Instead of picking out an accessory and adding it on......the buyer has to find a car that has the accessory he want.
 
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Not really, you just have to be patient, and commit with money down, and you can get in the high 90% range of exactly what you want. Here's a video which I found very informative, and I was impressed with the quality of the work they do as opposed to the opinions widely available on the internet.


Skyblazer said:
One thing Toyota dealers could do today is offer a choice of 19" or 21" Signia wheels....just stock a couple of extra sets.

I've read Toyota sells 14 different models. The sell about 2.3 million vehicles per year USA, over 11 million global. I'm guessing they would respond; we can't stock multiple wheel sets for all those models.

The dealers also don't need to stock items like Activity Mounts. Instead they just bolt them on the odd car at Port and buyer get stucks with a $450(?) option....needed or not. The good news is.....for Toyota dealers....they are not stuck with unsold Cross Bars and Tow Bars. Instead of picking out an accessory and adding it on......the buyer has to find a car that has the accessory he want.
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#16 ·
delanecky, thanks for the video. Given Japan's reputation for quality, I'm surprised at the amount or effort ($$$$) spent on each vehicle at the PPO. Also surprised that an item like fog lights were installed at PPO and not at the factory, given the amount of labor installed (remove each front wheel). Takeaway; it appears the factory builds a "generic" version and local economies all over the world modify to meet local demands/laws. That makes sense before computers, but at this point of manufacturing sophistication, it would seem serious money could be saved building the final product in Japan. Not a criticism....more a curiosity.
 
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Has this question ever been answered on the forums? I have searched and all I can find is that they can be swapped but I haven't found anyone commenting that they actually did it or if it actually changed/improved their ride quality.

I'm thinking about swapping over to Venza Nightshade 19" rims on my Signia Limited but it's a lot of money so I would like to get any comments on the value of the switch. I am actually most interested in this switch because there are a lot more tire options with the 19" rim, with many of those options seeming to offer a quieter & smoother ride than my OEM tires.
 
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#29 ·
I'm looking hard at a Signia Limited but also dislike low-profile tires.

Just wondering if anyone has swapped to the 19s on a Limited and insights into ride quality changes.

A friend bought an Accord Touring with the low-profile 21s and asked the dealer to swap to EX rims for a bunch of free oil changes and a few hundred bucks off the price; dealer was happy to do so.

If there's a big difference, I may try a similar approach.
 
#32 ·
NickD_25 said:
I'm looking hard at a Signia Limited but also dislike low-profile tires.

Just wondering if anyone has swapped to the 19s on a Limited and insights into ride quality changes.

A friend bought an Accord Touring with the low-profile 21s and asked the dealer to swap to EX rims for a bunch of free oil changes and a few hundred bucks off the price; dealer was happy to do so.

If there's a big difference, I may try a similar approach.
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I run 19 inch wheels for the winter and feel that the ride definitely improves especially over sharp impacts and expansion joints. I wish they gave you an option to get the 19s instead of the 21s.
 
#30 ·
I'm probably going to switch to 18" wheels when my Limited's 21" OEM tires wear out. I want more sidewall and better tire selection. Even the 19" rim on the XLE still has fairly low profile tires.

My biggest issue is whether I do a wheel bolt to wheel stud conversion when I change over. I'm thinking studs at this point, but only if I can get studs where I can use acorn lug nuts, as I'm not a fan of having studs sticking out of the rim.
 
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I think I'd eventually do the bolt-to-stud conversion (we've done this on our race car and haven't had any issues in 10+ races since conversion under extreme conditions).

I'm also contemplating just a second set of winter wheels - I've got a -2" set for my current car and don't mind switching. If the ride is noticeably improved, I'd probably just slap a set of all-weather tires like the CrossClimate2s on it.
 
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